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Wiggle Room Podcast: Episode 12

I Want Her Out Of Her Phone So We Can Connect + Unconditional Love + Direction

I Want Her Out Of Her Phone So We Can Connect

In this episode of the Wiggle Room Podcast, we’ll look at the stress of someone not paying attention because they are looking at their phone. Can you find a similar situation in your life? Let’s do The Work and see if there’s any wiggle room.

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0:00 — Intro
1:47 — Inquiry: “I want her out of her phone.”
31:48 — Newsletter: “Unconditional Love + Direction”
39:35 — Outro

Open Session Recording

The dialogue in the first part of this episode is taken from one of my weekly Open Sessions. You can be a participant in Open Sessions each week to do The Work with me or ask your questions. This is an unedited recording so you can experience the natural process of exploration using The Work of Byron Katie.

Newsletter Article

In the second part of the recording, you’ll hear me reading the newsletter article, Unconditional Love + Direction. This is how I like to hold people who come to do The Work or who take courses in The Work with me. Everything is welcome, yet I guide people back to the process of self-inquiry when they wander or misunderstand it.

I encourage you to subscribe to my newsletter to get new articles like this one each week. 

Bonus Videos

If you prefer video, you can watch the following sections of the podcast in HD video.

Become Fluent in The Work of Byron Katie

If you enjoy listening or watching as participants go through the process of doing The Work, you may find that this form of meditation is a match for you. Doing The Work yourself brings this experience to a whole new level.

Want to learn how to hold yourself and others in this meditative practice? Take The Work 101, my nine-week (or nine-month) online course for learning and deepening your practice of The Work. Or join us for a weekend virtual retreat.